they lost this election! >> you know, the other piece is that they talk about having, this big deal of having a downpayment. do you the downpayment. this year. and then next year, you really figure out how to reform the tax code and all of that. but in the downpayment and this is key house republicans are asking for medicare savings. now, you'll remember during the campaign they said if you're receiving medicare now you're a current beneficiary, nothing will change of the now we have a different tune. they're asking for savings today, not ten years from now. >> bill: this is the so-called entitlement reform. so you really do have a case -- we've made this point so many times, the republicans not accepting the fact that the american people have spoken. that was the whole purpose of putting everything off until after the election. >> that's right. >> bill: because then we would have -- american people have chosen the course. i was at the white house where jay carney said yet again the president will never sign